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- Date: Wed, 27 Jul 94 12:24 BST-1
- From: ogal@cix.compulink.co.uk (Ofir Gal)
- Subject: Re: Getting right mouse button clicks
- To: gem-list@world.std.com
- Message-Id: <memo.783987@cix.compulink.co.uk>
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- ekl@sdf.lonestar.org said:
- >
- >========================================================================
- >Yes - evnt_multi(MU_MESAG+MU_KEYBD+MU_BUTTON+timerflag,258,3,0...)
- >
- >258 waits for 2 clicks, 259 for 3, etc. Which button was pressed is
- >returned in the button variable as usual.
- >========================================================================
- >
- >You didn't read me code either. That 0 that you have in there means taht
- >your evnt_multi will return instantly as long as the mouse button is
- >down. This is kinda bad as you keep getting mouse events. Take another
- >look at my code, or at least change the 0 to whatever variable you use
- >to store the output of evnt_multi's button state in. That will cut things
- >down to 2 events instead of a few thousand.
-
- I don't follow. My code actaully uses a variable, but this is set to 0
- initially. What's the difference? In your original message you say:
-
- > The third is a button mask, 0 for up, 1 for down, for each button, same
- > as the button return word, and the button mask in the previous parameter.
- > Normally this is a 1, waiting for the left mouse button to be down. In
- > this trick you make it a 0 (all buttons up).
-
-
- ekl@sdf.lonestar.org said:
- >
- >I thought it would be one file, with the format :
- >
- >appname:action:key
- >
- >With various extensions where key could be some other variable for things
- >taht aren't key-short-cuts. Wildcards are valid, so global keys would
- >be done with '*', as in :
- >
- >*:Open:^O
- >
- >
- >As to where to put it, no one has even agreed to the above. They are
- >still arguing about ^A and trying to vote on it. Damn stupid to vote
- >on ^A when you can configure it instead.
-
- It's much more stupid to tell people you are trying to work with towards
- agreement that they are stupid. The ^A vote IS needed, because there has
- been no agreement about the app-defs file, it may not get the 65% approval
- required. In which case we still need a standard. We (except for Tim
- Miller) are not arguing about ^A and this has not been under discussion for
- about a month.
-
- millert@undergrad.csee.usf.edu said:
- >
- >Well, after much thought, I have decided to abandon the German
- >user-interface attitude of so overloading the interface with [sometimes
- >marginally useful] features that the program becomes unusable.
-
- That is up to you, but I keep getting the feeling that you haven't
- acy`tually tried any of those German applications. Check out a demo of
- Papyrus, Connect, Edith and GEMBench (not German) and many others.
- Otherwise you will be left behind. I find that the user interface of
- GEMBench is the main reason people register it - going by their letters.
-
- >I see absolutely no point in going through all the trouble of adding
- >countless features and options, 90% of which will not be used in any
- >particular situation. I want a window-library that makes my life easy
- >with documentation that takes me less than a week to read and understand,
- >well-commented, readable code, and simple bindings.
-
- See above...
-
- >I see no point in absolutely abandoning the GEM style. It makes sense to
-
- With that I agree. But the definition of GEM has evolved far beyond what
- you consider GEM. Download some up to date shareware from UK and German FTP
- sits before you make your mind up.
-
- >With that, I have to ask what is in some of these other libraries that
- >take up over 200k? Loads and loads of more features.... most of which
- >someone looking to get work done would never use.
-
- The HiSfot GEM Toolbox (which I co-wrote) handle windows which may have
- text, forms, images, window menus, toolbar, round radio buttons, check
- boxes, scrolling lists. Any of the elements may be mixed so you can have a
- window with text, images and a toolbar if you want. The source code is
- almost 400k, but it is divided into modules, so you just use the parts you
- need.
-
- >Secondly, if anyone uses Ctrl-A for select all, they're going to be in a
-
- That's what we had a vote for. Last time I counted there were 30 votes, 29
- of which didn't agree with your idea, Tim. Issue closed! The vote
- results will be published when Yat comes back from Europe. As to the
- config file... I am in two minds about it for many reasons. I think I will
- vote for it, but if there's no majority for it then I will accept this as
- well.
-
- >totally harmess assigned to it like Redraw-window.
-
- Please don't repeat this discussion, you're wasting everyone's time.
-
- Bye,
-
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